QTS4 compatibility

[DocEmmetBrown]

Hi Folks,

I used to update my qnap-412 NAS with the Tailscale_*_arm-x19.qpkg packages, and they don't seem to be available anymore with the new building system.
Is there a chance that I can find them somewhere ? or do I have to build them myself ?

Thanks a lot for this package, and also for all the hard work in Tailscale, the product is amazing !

[DentonGentry]

The latest stable release is https://github.com/tailscale/tailscale-qpkg/releases/tag/v1.34.1, which has x19 packages available.

You may find other binaries if you look for them, which are marked as Pre-release and not intended for use. Those are aimed at getting into the QNAP App Center, which has its own notion of packaging. For example: x19, x31, and x41 all use exactly the same ARMv7 binary. The Tailscale_1.34.2-1_arm-x41.qpkg gets bundled as the ARMv7 package which all three use.

[DocEmmetBrown]

Thanks for your message @DentonGentry.
I tried with the Tailscale_1.34.2-1_arm-x41.qpkg on my hardware, and it fails, with message Failed to install Tailscale 1.34.2-1. Installation package is incompatible. Use the correct package. .
It's OK with version 1.34.1, with the x19 package
Do you think it's worth investigating ? and if yes, what data can I collect to help the investigation ?

My NAS is a TS-412 ( and not 420 as I mistakenly mentioned in my first message), with QNAP OS version 4.3.3.2211

[DocEmmetBrown]

from my reading of the old GitHub action builder code , it looks like the x19 package is actually the only ARMv5. That would explain why it doesn't install on my super old NAS.

[DentonGentry]

Next week we're expecting to release 1.36.0, so a new qnap-* package will appear. I'll include the x19 build this time instead of x41, and expect to use that for the QNAP App Center ARM32 build.

It is unfortunate that we only get to deliver one ARM32 binary, we don't have a way to deliver one ARMv5 and one ARMv7.

[DocEmmetBrown]

Thanks @DentonGentry. Don't hesitate to ping me if I can be any helpful for testing things on very old hardware ;)

[DentonGentry]

https://github.com/tailscale/tailscale-qpkg/releases/tag/qnap-1.36.0 includes an x19 binary.

[DocEmmetBrown]

Hey @DentonGentry , I tried to install it, but get the [App Center] Failed to install Tailscale. Upgrade QTS to 5.0.0 or a newer compatible version. message.
Any chance that you're also able to package it for QTS 4.X ?

[DentonGentry]

Any chance that you're also able to package it for QTS 4.X ?

We tried, by purchasing a refurbished TS-231K which arrived with QTS 4.x. Without us ever telling it to do so, it updated itself to QTS5 overnight one night. QNAP is apparently pushing to get devices onto QTS5.

At this point I don't expect to be able to support QTS4. We do not have a way to develop for it nor test it.

[DocEmmetBrown]

At this point I don't expect to be able to support QTS4. We do not have a way to develop for it nor test it.

That's very unfortunate, as some (very) "old" Qnap devices can't migrate to QTS5. :'(
Any chance that you could download the old firmware from this page, and revert it to QTS 4 ?
My understanding is that models TS-X3X, X5X, and X7X can update to QTS5.
TS-X1X and X2X can't.

[DentonGentry]

Any chance that you could download the old firmware from this page, and revert it to QTS 4 ?

I understand that you want QTS4 support. We did try. At this point I do not expect to put more effort into it. You are welcome to continue to use the CLI version https://github.com/tailscale/tailscale-qpkg/releases/tag/v1.34.1, which will continue to interoperate with Tailscale updates for the foreseeable future.

[DocEmmetBrown]

Thanks for your answer @DentonGentry . I'm sad but I can understand.
Is there and easy-ish way for me to build it from source if I want to have the updated tailscale code ?
Thanks again

[DentonGentry]

Is there and easy-ish way for me to build it from source

git clone this repository and run make pkg on a Linux machine which has docker available. It will fetch the tailscale and tailscaled binaries from pkgs.tailscale.com, and create a set of packages in out/tailscale-<version>/pkg

If you want to build the tailscale and tailscaled binaries you can, it just isn't automated. You'd git clone https://github.com/tailscale/tailscale on a Linux machine and run GOARCH=arm go build ./cmd/tailscale and GOARCH=arm go build ./cmd/tailscaled
Then copy the new binaries into this repository's out/tailscale-<version>/ and run make pkg again. It won't download the binaries from pkgs.tailscale.com if they are already present.

[DocEmmetBrown]

Hey @DentonGentry ,
FWIW, after running :

sed -i -e  's/QTS_MINI_VERSION=".*"/QTS_MINI_VERSION="4.0.0"/' ./Tailscale/qpkg.cfg.in

and

make pkg

the Tailscale_1.36.0-1_arm-x19.qpkg can be installed on my TS-412, and seems to be working like a charm, including the webUI for the login page. 🥳

[DentonGentry]

QTS4 would also require the QVPN package be installed, to create /dev/net/tun. Presumably you already had it.
QTS5 has a /dev/net/tun device by default without needing to install QVPN.

To support QTS4 we have to add QVPN as a package dependency, which QTS5 users would also have to install it as I know of no way for a package to express different dependencies based on QTS version.

[QuantumLibet]

Hej @DocEmmetBrown,

FWIW, the binaries (well, executables) still work. A workaround is to extract the executables tailscaled and tailscale from the qpkg package, and replace the older, already installed version of them with the newer versions. That has worked for my trusty old TS-112P.

Prerequisites:

• a Linux installation
• SSH access to the QNAP.

1. Download the current Tailscale_..._x19.qpkg:

    curl -sSLO $(curl -s https://api.github.com/repos/tailscale/tailscale-qpkg/releases/latest | awk '/https.*x19.qpkg"/{gsub("\"",""); print $2}')
   

2. Clone the extraction scripts from Max Boehm:

    git clone https://github.com/max-boehm/qnap-utils.git
   

3. Unpack the qpkg package:
   The tailscale and tailscaled executables will be available in the folder ./Tailscale*/data.

    ./qnap-utils/extract_qpkg.sh ./Tailscale*.qpkg
   

4. Copy the executables with SSH to the QNAP and overwrite the existing files:

    scp Tailscale*/data/tailscale* <user>@<server>:/share/HDA_DATA/.qpkg/Tailscale/
   

5. Restart the Tailscale app in the QNAP App Center, or reboot the QNAP.

Hope that helps.